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Really, it's June and I still have to show you my thoughts on Sarah Palin?

moriath

Currently out of work, fandom- and wedding-obsessed 23 year old woman. Expect to see lots of posts about wedding, job-hunting, moving across the country (MI to NY) and fandom!

Really, it's June and I still have to show you my thoughts on Sarah Palin?

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So the governor of Alaska is back in the news again (really, has she left since November?), this time because David Letterman made some off-color jokes about her and her family. Palin is demanding an apology on behalf of the women of America (oh, so now you care about us, Governor Palin? /snark).

A friend of mine on Facebook posted a long note that basically said "I expect Letterman to apologize when you apologize for being an idiot and letting your idiot daughter talk about stupid abstinence."

I may or may not be exaggerating the number of times "idiot" was used in his note.

A bunch of people agreed with said friend, but it really didn't sit well with me because...and this is hard for me...I think Sarah Palin is right.

Because my computer is buggy I haven't been able to actually watch Letterman's clip, but from the bits I've been able to read online, there are two jokes that were objectionable: a comment that one of Palin's daughters got pregnant by A-Rod during a Yankee's game, and Palin took time while in New York to buy new clothes to update her "slutty flight attendant" look. Palin's demands for an apology focus on the former joke (Letterman claims the daughter he was joking about was 18 year old Bristol, while it was Palin's 14 year old daughter that actually attended the game, meaning that the joke definitely has icky statutory rape undertones), but really it's the second joke that I have a problem with. Calling a woman a "slut" is about the lowest form of discourse we have in this country and one of those insults that has become so normalized that too many people (including pretty much everyone commenting on my friend's Facebook note) fail to recognize that it is even a disgusting, misogynist insult.

I actually had a rather stimulating debate in the comment thread with another woman about whether it was "worth" getting riled up over the slut remark - we had to agree to disagree because she absolutely thought there was nothing wrong with the joke (and also kept coming back to an argument about how we have to hold female, gay, and non-white comedians to the same standard of discourse we were holding a white guy...I'm not sure where exactly that tangent came from).

But the sort of comment that inspired me to come on here to rant (because I promised that I would stop hijacking the comment thread over there), is repeated calls for Palin to apologize for various remarks she made about Barack Obama during the campaign before it would be appropriate for Letterman to apologize. Like when she said being a small town mayor was like being a community organizer, except for having actual responsibilities.

Okay, I'm in agreement that I thought that was something really dumb to say because clearly I don't think being a community organizer is a bad or worthless thing. But it is on a totally different level of discourse than jokes about her sexuality or her daughters' sexuality because, faulty though Palin's reasoning may have been back during the campaign, it was an attack on Obama's record and past employment. It's the duty of politicians to analyze each other's records and keep each other as honest as they can - no the McCain/Palin camp didn't do a good job of that (in this democrats opinion), but things like the community organizer thread to their attacks was based in some sort of policy. Calling Sarah Palin a slut and talking about her family has absolutely nothing to do with her politics (and there are oh so many political ways to attack Governor Palin).

Basically what my feelings boil down to are 1) Palin doesn't owe anybody an apology for reasonable political beliefs and actions and 2) Even if she did owe an apology for her actions, that doesn't mean Letterman doesn't owe her (and/or all of America's women) an apology.

...And I think I'm done. Good night.
  • (Anonymous)
    I'm actually really against anyone attacking or mocking her children, in general. You can argue that Bristol Palin is news, and I think she was. But making them the punchlines of jokes...even if it has been Bristol, it wouldn't have been right. Because whatever you think of Sarah Palin, her children are off-limits. They don't drive policy, they are not in control, and life as a kid is hard enough without being a punchline on Letterman.

    (And I really hope the Obama girls are protected in this way. It's horrifying to think of what people are going to say about them. The Bush twins shouldn't have been treated this way, Chelsea Clinton shouldn't...children should be off-limits.)

    As for the slut remark, isn't there enough we can hate Sarah Palin for without going into outright falsehoods? Although I do wonder if calling her a slut is roughly equivalent to calling McCain an asshole -- it's not a provable insult, but it's a rough shorthand for "despicable, lowlife person". In the context, Letterman's being trashy, but I wonder if, in just saying "Sarah Palin? That slut!", if we're actually implying she's a slut, or if it's just gender-segregated shorthand... -Rachel

    • Generally I think the kids should be off limits, too, except that Bristol has legitimately been in the spotlight on her own recently. She's gone on her own to abstinence-only fundraisers and the like making herself a public figure. But Letterman's joke was still tasteless. I haven't seen any sort of commentary about the Obama girls except "omgSOCUTE."

      Slut cannot be the same as asshole. Asshole doesn't have sexual connotations, nor is it gendered. If slut, as it is currently used, can't be shorthand for "despicable, lowlife person" because it isn't applied to both genders, so it can only be shorthand for "despicable, lowlife woman."
      • (Anonymous)
        Bristol being in the news NOW is legitimate, because she's doing things in her own right. For a while, she was not a public figure, she was the daughter of a public figure. I'm a little afraid of what's going to be said of the Obama girls when they're a little older -- the Bush twins were twenty and were branded as public drunkards, Chelsea Clinton was openly mocked on her appearance when she was 12...the press is really mean to girls in the White House. (There hasn't been a male child in the White House since probably JFK Jr., if I'm doing the math right -- I know Jimmy Carter had three sons, but they were on their own by the time he was in the White House, leaving the attention for Amy.)

        I don't think "asshole" is a gendered word, but it's an implicitly gendered word -- it's rare to call a woman an asshole. Maybe "dickhead" is a better example -- a word that is an insult, is usually only applied to a man, has a sexual connotation, but is no longer about the sexual. Although I personally don't do this, I think that's the semantic drift of the word. Though in context, Letterman was wrong and being icky.
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